Friday, August 28, 2009

Another Poll

I found another poll on Samurai Country page. This is interesting. Check the link and scroll down to the Nobunaga and Tenka poll.

Apparently this was aired during the week.

The way the Oda machine was going after eliminating the Takeda in the spring of 1582 was full steam ahead.

Lamers Japonius Tyrannus page 195.

"At the time of his violent death (Nobunaga), says Berry, 'Nobunaga still faced the Mori, Shimazu, Uesugi, Date, Hojo, and Chosogabe-houses-collectively more formidable than those he had already taken. The Oda advances by 1582 provided little assurance that further gains were likely.' The fact of the matter is, however, that both Shimazu of southern Kyushu and the Date of northern Honshu maintained friendly relations with Nobunaga. Additionally, the Hojo had fought under his command in the 1582 Takeda Campaign; the Uesugi was a house divided against itself; the Mori was a formidable but retreating opponent; and the Chosogabe was a second-rate, if not a third-rate enemy."

Things did look bright for Nobunaga before his death. If he did not perish on June 2, 1582, Sengoku Japan would have been very different than what we know today.

Tenka no tame!


Tornadoes28 said...

I think the Uesugi would have been completely destroyed within a short period of time had Nobunaga not died. The Chosokabe would also have been no match and the Mori also appeared to be reeling. My feeling is that once the Uesugi, Chosokabe and maybe the Mori were destroyed, the writing would be on the wall for all remaining clans. I think the rest would have probably submitted or become strong allies.

Tornadoes28 said...

I actually just came back from the library to check out the Lamers book to read it a second time but it was already checked out. I guess there is another Nobunaga fan somewhere here in Downtown LA.

I ended up picking up "The Samurai" by H. Paul Varley.

otsuke said...

I had to read the paragraph a couple of times. It was truly full speed ahead. If the Mori did fall later in the year (fall or winter), it would spell end game for most of the other families.

The more I learn about Nobunaga's sudden death, the more I know how close Nobunaga was from having Japan all for himself.